Sunday, October 13, 2013

Dark Elves: Working on a new list

Hmm.. what next?

Let's see what we got here.  Here's the latest workshop of units on the battlefield.

10 drops

Lv.4 Supreme Sorc, Scroll, Gem = 250

Master BSB, 1+ RR, SoMight = 155

33x Witch Elves, FC, Razor Standard = 438
5x Black Riders, Shield, RXB, Mus = 110
5x Black Riders, Shield, RXB, Mus = 110

28x Executioners, FC, SoDisc = 381
28x Executioners, FC = 366
4x RBT = 280

5x Warlocks = 125
5x Warlocks = 125
Kharibdyss = 160

Right here is 3x big infantry blocks, something that I'm very used to playing because all my High Elves list look this way.  I took out the Shades, dropped the second Kharibdyss and added a whole unit of Executioners.  What I could do now to further edit the list would be take out the last Kharibdyss and a few Witches for a unit of 10x Shades with GW.

This list now has 89 walking bodies on the battlefield and comes out to 2500 points exactly.  That by itself is something I'm very proud about.  To turn this list into a 2400 list, I would cut 3x Witch Elves and a single RBT for a smooth transition.

While the Kharibdyss were fun for a while, they just ate cannon after cannon or multiple shots from RBTs.  I don't think they did much in close combat either, doing some damage and then eating shit right after.  Speaking of which, I don't think they ever got to stomp anything either because they died after they swung lol.  Yeah... It's time to drop them and give another unit of 7x4 Executioners a go.

Quick blurb:
So I had a short game yesterday where I took Shadow vs. Daemons. Magic for me was 0356.
Against MSU with Plague Drones and Screamers, getting all sorts of skirmisher/hard cover overlay that made shooting against them useless. There were Beasts of Nurgle and Juggers too.

Midway through the game, I thought to myself, man, if I had Dark magic right now, I would be completely screwed. A few instances I threw small Miasma out on Juggers to keep their movement threatened, but didn't draw DD (as expected). Constant attempts at Pit on his unit of Beasts drew the DD I needed to throw Withering and Miasma on a Drone unit so they can get torn up by Shades/Warlocks. Mindrazor on the back of his head made charging Witches with anything a risky proposition, and I didn't even need to Razor at all. Just the thought of it being there made him use a couple more turns maneuvering around the battlefield.

Against an army of MSU Juggers, Drones, Beasts and Screamers in a tournament, I don't think I would of had a chance if I had Dark. Just some addition observations.


Grovel said...

How do you think you'd have fared with other lores? I find Death is always handy against my regular Daemon opponent - I'm curious how you think the other lores would have fared in the same matchup.

HERO said...

When I build an army, I do it with a balanced mindset in mind. This army list should be able to take on anyone regardless of the matchup. While Death might be good against a specific Daemons build, it will suffers vs. High Elves to a pretty large degree. That's why I prefer using Shadow, I think the hexses and augments it offers supplements combat the most, and that's what this game comes down to at the end of the day: Winning combat.

n3ctaris said...

Why take the gem?

Skip said...

Thank you for your DE insights! There's so few WHFB tactic sites out there

HERO said...

So if you ever match up against something that has flaming attacks, your Sorc can actually tank a few hits. Oh, and it's effective should the rest of the unit burns from Fiery Convocation or something and you can actually save. Lastly, it's 5 points, so it's used as filler.

HERO said...

Thanks, np.

Tim Andresen said...

Sorry, dumb question but need to know.........what's 1+ RR?

Dalinair said...

I wondered this as well, Im guessing the somight is the sword of might? but cant find the 1+ RR

HERO said...

Sorry guys, Enchanted Shield, Dawnstone, Sword of Might.

Dalinair said...

Cheers! :)

n3ctaris said...

Oh! Dragonbane Gem, not The Gem of Spite. A little confusing referencing it that way when we got a Gem in our new book. :D

HERO said...

You're right, I should be more specific next time!

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