Wednesday, May 7, 2014

Cygnar: 50pt eCaine

Look at this sexy man-beast.

Alright, so what does my eCaine list look like at 50 points?  Well, the answer is pretty simple.  You take my 35 point list and you add Boomhowlers.  It's not my fault that Cygnar typically has suck ass infantry except for ATGM + UA, but hey, what can you do.  After some deliberation, I've decided to give my Tempest Blazers a try with Boomhowler and Co. in the same list for 50 points.

One of the biggest issues I have with Tempest Blazers is that while they're incredibly good, they're also very generic in terms of what they provide.  The first thing that you'll notice is that they fit the same role of ranged combat.  They're essentially faster, more durable versions of ATGM, but they lack the True Sight but can extend their firepower more because of their speed.  At the end of the day, they hit harder than ATGM but they lack the shenanigans that Thunderbolt can sometimes net you, especially in a Caine2 list where you can move things out of firing lanes.  The True Sight is also huge, making them less useful vs. Stealth and doesn't give you the same amount of degree of protection vs. say, Mage Hunters or Bane Thralls.  Fortunately for the Tempest Blazer, you can always race out there and put some Electro-leap shots in their face.  Last, but certainly not least, is the UA ability to put Rune Shots onto a Hunter.  That's probably the biggest reason to take ATGM over the Blazers.  I guess the fact that they require Crits to get inflated results also wants them in a list with Deadeye (cough Haley cough).  Overall, I can see both working out just fine in an eCaine list, but for now I think I'll go with the Blazers.

To me, it's pretty set in stone what you want in a 50 point eCaine list.  You really need some meat in there no matter what so Boomhowler is an auto-include.  Cygnar infantry typically have zero sustain and you want a unit that can tarpit, take positions and play objectives.  There is simply no substitute in the entire Cygnar game in that respect.  The rest is simply mandatory items for Caine which is: Taryn, Reindholt, Squire, Rangers, eEiryss, A&H, and Ol'Rowdy.  Essentially, the first 30 or so points that you have is pretty mandatory, from my experience anyway.  Anything else for me is just sub-optimal and there's not much list variation for the casters that I plan on playing with Cygnar (eCaine and eHaley).  Guess I did it to myself huh?

Anyways, here's the list:

Points: 50/50
Captain Allister Caine (*5pts)
* Ol' Rowdy (9pts)
* Squire (2pts)
Black 13th Gun Mage Strike Team (4pts)
Greygore Boomhowler & Co. (Boomhowler and 9 Grunts) (9pts)
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt (4pts)
Rangers (5pts)
Tempest Blazers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (10pts)
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution (3pts)
Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist (2pts)
Journeyman Warcaster (3pts)
Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator (1pts)
Stormsmith Stormcaller (1pts)
Taryn di la Rovissi (2pts)

This is the list that I'm building towards and the first list I'll put on the table for my glorious return to competitive Warmachine.  Good timing too, since it looks like 40K is going down the shitter real fast.


Phase_Assassin said...

You wouldn't happen to live around the Florida area, by any chance? Always looking to play against more players.

HERO said...

Sorry, I'm actually out in Southern California :)

Phase_Assassin said...

Let me know about Vassal then. Just downloaded it the other day and the only thing I can't grasp yet is the measuring. It seems a bit fiddly.

Also, we just started the Halfaug league here. Awesome turnout. Had a 3(!) hour game with my Cryx against Highborn. Won by scenario by the skin of my teeth.

octrus vianeple said...

well i would say make a sub menu for upcoming playstation games. BTW nice collection of games with full info.

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