tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post7282275833453546367..comments2023-10-30T01:14:22.330-07:00Comments on HERO's Gaming Blog: High Elves: Brainstorm #1Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-26015992270466562182013-04-30T07:28:37.340-07:002013-04-30T07:28:37.340-07:00While redirect and bait units like Reavers play a ...While redirect and bait units like Reavers play a useful and necessary role I wouldn't put them in the 100% effective range. Most of the hardcore steadfast armies (Skaven, Orcs, Empire) will simply have too many units on the board to deal with and bait. Also, if your bait units are too close to your combat units, they will simply redirect the charge.Chronowraithhttp://chronowraith.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-16119704283580699172013-04-30T01:56:22.574-07:002013-04-30T01:56:22.574-07:00you have reavers in core now thus you can play cat...you have reavers in core now thus you can play cat and mouse with those units for quite long nowCptCosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-63916275084492514162013-04-30T01:54:52.189-07:002013-04-30T01:54:52.189-07:00I would change the dragon list for more dragon pow...I would change the dragon list for more dragon power :)<br /><br />Prince on Stardragon not sure about items<br />Dragonmage with Dragon Armor, Enchanted Shield, Sunfire Gem and Dispelscroll<br /><br />BSB on Steed goes into Silverhelms, not sure about his items<br /><br />Core Silverhelms with Banner of Swiftness and some Reavers<br />Special Dragon Prince with Banner of the Derp Dragon<br /><br /><br />Rare phoenix and eaglesCptCosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-69786083710026876802013-04-29T19:19:38.842-07:002013-04-29T19:19:38.842-07:00I wouldn't worry too much about running away. ...I wouldn't worry too much about running away. I'm pretty sure you'll win most combats. I'd be more worried about being locked in combat and being flank charged by something fierce like Chaos Chosen, Executioners, or Ogre Ironguts. They will eat through enough of the unit (it's only 11 strong afterall) that it won't recover even with the BotWD.<br /><br />I don't mean to sound harsh. I"m actually glad that someone is thinking about something other than Teclis or Light Council builds for High Elves.<br /><br />Just curious but why not take maiden guard? You mention wanting a ranged list and I'd think that a bunch of S4 magical flaming attacks would seem irresistible.Chronowraithhttp://chronowraith.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-90255601529170093652013-04-29T18:25:18.854-07:002013-04-29T18:25:18.854-07:00Steadfast is a problem, yes. But hopefully the St...Steadfast is a problem, yes. But hopefully the Stubborn from the BotWD will be enough to tear through those ranks.HEROhttp://lkhero.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-85495707870193421152013-04-29T15:22:16.915-07:002013-04-29T15:22:16.915-07:00I think Silver Helms will be one of the go-to choi...I think Silver Helms will be one of the go-to choices for core along with Ellyrion Reavers. You can build up a unit with two or three ranks for roughly the same price as the Dragon Princes you have in there now. That way you can knock out Steadfast. With the increase in available models able to lend out supporting attacks, you're getting just as many S5 attacks out of the unit; albeit without the 2+ Ward against flaming attacks and WS5. Otherwise I think it's a decent list.<br /><br />I'm going to be rocking a unit of each (DP and Silver Helms) in my current build, but I'm going to go for the more shooty/fleeing style list with several decent sized units of Ellyrion Reavers, backed up by combat blocks of Silver Helms and Dragon Princes, and some shooting support from RBT's.Vilicatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-7668583028448754002013-04-29T14:45:20.423-07:002013-04-29T14:45:20.423-07:00I have discovered your blog just few days ago. And...I have discovered your blog just few days ago. And I have to say that I found it very interesting. Good job man ... I am exited into new HE same as you! ... I was thinking about dragon list as well. I just prefering bigger unit of SH before DP in my mind...concobaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-41738766023172660962013-04-29T14:29:13.570-07:002013-04-29T14:29:13.570-07:00A little early to listhammer but a few comments.
T...A little early to listhammer but a few comments.<br />The Dragon list really won't perform well. Archers will remove small chaff but the larger chaff will still exist to bog units down. Skaven slaves, zombies, goblins, etc will still bog down your knights and allow them to be flank charged. Most of those are unbreakable, LD10 in the early game, and most will have a BSB nearby. Also, steadfast is steadfast. Throw in that you currently only have a single unit in the entiire list that will disrupt ranks in a flank charge and your list will simply become bogged down trying to remove the sacrifice units. Those units aren't supposed to do damage so reducing their stats or making them ASL won't matter either other than maybe chew through them a little quicker.<br />As for the phoenix, this happens every army book with new monsters/creatures and what happens? Everyone rushes out to try a bunch of them and then they find out that cannons, death magic, and other nasty monster hunting things still exist. The Ice Phoenix is really cool, don't get me wrong, I just don't agree with the sentiment that it will be an auto-include.<br /><br />Both lists need some steadfast units. I'm not saying that you have to have boatloads of them, but you need soemthing that can withstand a charge by something nasty and hold them in place. You can't rely on getting the charge off except for possibly the Dragon Knights and even then, I'd play it safe with guestimates.Chronowraithnoreply@blogger.com