tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post8998630200751881171..comments2023-10-30T01:14:22.330-07:00Comments on HERO's Gaming Blog: Tactica: High Elves vs. DwarfsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-24855326737641306962010-09-04T23:43:28.437-07:002010-09-04T23:43:28.437-07:00Overall, I'd pull fewer punches with this guid...Overall, I'd pull fewer punches with this guide if I were you. Some parts of it are gold:<br /><br />Deploy wide, then swift-reform once warmachines are engaged. Beautiful. You make it very clear how stupidly dangerous S5 stone throwers are, and then you tell how to deal with it. <br /><br />Also, your assessment of the importance of Irresistable Force (ie Teclis or Book) against Dwarves, I would say, is spot-on. Trying to force a magic phase through using sheer numbers of spells and power dice doesn't usually work well against them - you'll get some spells, but at useless times and not in the combination you wanted.<br /><br />But some parts...will actually hurt the reader if he tries them. <br /><br />Use cavalry against Dwarf shooting units? No. Charging them with cav is basically a free shooting phase for the Dwarves; wham bam here's my 2 ranks of S4 BS4 armor piercing, thank you ma'am. The right way is to land eagles behind them and let them choose between a rear charge or turning away from the battle.<br /><br />Also, on Korhil: KB is great. Don't get me wrong. But Dwarves are exactly the wrong army you want to depend on it against. They've got the Rune of Oh No You Ditunt.<br /><br />Lastly, I would probably just come out and say it. A Dwarf Lord will wipe the floor with your combat Prince. The Dwarf has a better statline, better magic item selection, and 50 more points to spend on them than you do. It will happen. Be the bigger man, accept your inferiority in a challenge, and find some other way to get rid of the bugger. If you don't, you'll end up like Caledor II.Sapphonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-77182557288511430552010-08-25T09:38:54.667-07:002010-08-25T09:38:54.667-07:00Thunderers have +1 to hit because of a special rul...Thunderers have +1 to hit because of a special rule they have in their book. Think of it like adding crosshairs to a gun. It makes 'em more accurate.HEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-3851303851595221462010-08-25T04:40:26.924-07:002010-08-25T04:40:26.924-07:00Man this is a great guide, I've been looking a...Man this is a great guide, I've been looking at how to beat my friend who had Dwarves and a heap of cannons and you have just given me the answers. Cheers Hero, you are a General even Malekith will fearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-44931884834783799042010-08-12T14:10:22.113-07:002010-08-12T14:10:22.113-07:00Why do Thunderers have +1 to hit?Why do Thunderers have +1 to hit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-31928762606780435972010-08-08T01:33:11.965-07:002010-08-08T01:33:11.965-07:00Hey Hero,
Thought I'd point out that the Anvi...Hey Hero,<br /><br />Thought I'd point out that the Anvil Runes are struck not in the Magic phase but the SHOOTING phase and do not count as magical spells/missiles, therefore units cannot claim a Magic Resistance ward save from Wrath and Ruin.<br /><br />Dwarfs distrust magic - they'd never use it. The runes are basically sounds that are rung out over the battlefield that have the various effects.<br /><br />QQuannumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-33965045245909431362010-07-26T13:45:21.258-07:002010-07-26T13:45:21.258-07:00Underestimate us Dawi at your peril Elf!! Our axes...Underestimate us Dawi at your peril Elf!! Our axes are sharp and the Grudges we have against you are still fresh in our minds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-33170660812910250892010-07-26T12:39:07.613-07:002010-07-26T12:39:07.613-07:00bring as many white lions you have. With my s6 ax...bring as many white lions you have. With my s6 ax i will make them into little kittiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-67609144074767061512010-07-25T21:17:07.432-07:002010-07-25T21:17:07.432-07:00That's why you have Book of Hoeth..That's why you have Book of Hoeth..HEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-82897474006613851542010-07-25T17:00:21.781-07:002010-07-25T17:00:21.781-07:00The problem with that is you're relying on thr...The problem with that is you're relying on throwing a ton of dice at the light spells, which 1) will waste a bunch of your dice; and 2) will in all likelihood cause irresistible force. The chances of getting any non-Teclis spells off afterward are slim to none.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-83412753127218367572010-07-20T06:54:24.307-07:002010-07-20T06:54:24.307-07:00Using Light with Teclis/Archmage Book of Hoeth as ...Using Light with Teclis/Archmage Book of Hoeth as mentioned and supplementing them with a L2 with seerstaff and Lore of Life, Flesh to Stone and Throne of Vines would be even better giving them T7 against the Dwarfs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-68816030046110349232010-07-19T11:05:32.456-07:002010-07-19T11:05:32.456-07:00Lore of Light can work. You need a good amount of...Lore of Light can work. You need a good amount of dice to cast with a normal Archmage even if you got Banner of Sorcery. For Teclis, this is a lot easier to pull off since you get the +D3 from his Moonstaff. To effect an entire army with Timewarp, you'll probably need 6 dice to cast, and you'll probably want 4-5 for Pha's Illumination. That's exactly why you need Teclis to pull off this combo because 1. You don't want half the army blowing up from a miscast, and 2. you need the big PD numbers to pull it off. For a normal Archmage, however, you'll probably want to Phase (Pha's)/Timewarp your White Lions and just catapult them straight forward. 17" average charge range with an additional attack each (assuming your 6 wide) will generate 25 attacks at WS5 with re-rolls S6. That's a lot of dead Dwarfs.HEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-61060172914213868562010-07-19T10:57:18.243-07:002010-07-19T10:57:18.243-07:00Lore of Light might be pretty good against Dwarves...Lore of Light might be pretty good against Dwarves because of two spells: Pha's protection and Birona's Timewarp.<br />Turn 1: March your elves 10" up the battle field. Cast Phas Protection and Bironas Timewarp (assuming you've got Teclis or Book of Hoeth these should go off alright)<br />Dwarfs now suffer -1 to hit and their warmachines don't work on a 3 or less.<br />Turn 2: charge your M10 elves into the dwarven line (due to Bironas Timewarp) and start killing. You'd average a 17" charge which would definately get you in range along with the marching in turn 1.<br />Do you think it could work?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-56719510179002177962010-07-19T08:16:50.311-07:002010-07-19T08:16:50.311-07:00It is important to note that most Dwarf kings and ...It is important to note that most Dwarf kings and even some thains might be immune to poison and more important killing blow. <br /><br />Also I wouldn´t field repeater bolt throwers at all, too expensive and with the anvil miners can dig themselves out anywhere on the table and charge in the turn they emerge. <br /><br />Other than that I also had great experience with white lions in 7th edition in 8th with more attacks and re rolls to hit....they are awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-4168124745832353272010-07-18T14:00:29.178-07:002010-07-18T14:00:29.178-07:00Hammerers are immune to fear and terror when with ...Hammerers are immune to fear and terror when with the Dwarf Lord, they are Stubborn ALWAYS. RwarrrrHEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-37125847209267069952010-07-18T13:49:16.665-07:002010-07-18T13:49:16.665-07:00Hail HERO, by decree of the council of princes Ult...Hail HERO, by decree of the council of princes Ulthuan and the Phoenix King himself, you are hereby and hence forth to be known as Warmaster Hero, and Prince of Ulthuan! <br /><br />Thank you for your wisdom in battle.<br /><br /><br />Herald of UlthaunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-4081118271673859092010-07-18T12:59:58.103-07:002010-07-18T12:59:58.103-07:00Hammerers are only stubborn when with a dwarf lord...Hammerers are only stubborn when with a dwarf lord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-13439196189148882132010-07-18T10:22:11.312-07:002010-07-18T10:22:11.312-07:00S6 is much better for breaking Dwarf lines and the...S6 is much better for breaking Dwarf lines and the 3+ vs. shooting and Forest Strider offered by White Lions makes them superior choices over Sword Masters.<br /><br />Thanks for the comments so far! I haven't decided what army I'm going to do next.HEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-46790499847808498892010-07-18T05:05:37.096-07:002010-07-18T05:05:37.096-07:00Top notch analysis :) I am having trouble picking ...Top notch analysis :) I am having trouble picking which unit to run (WL's vs. SM's). I tried running the SM's with Ellyrian Banner to make them act like WL's and actually got them stuck into my opponent's Temple Guard unit and they racked up the kills. With S5 re-rolls on WS 6, I was frequently hitting with almost every attack and then doing about 10 wounds on average before saves. I had softened up the TG with Pit of Shades beforehand so there wasn't much left after the SM's got a hold of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-42728260141129044222010-07-18T04:59:19.784-07:002010-07-18T04:59:19.784-07:00I haven't played against my friends dwarf army...I haven't played against my friends dwarf army yet, but I am already having nightmares about S5 GT's and cannon balls. I run a Book of Hoeth lvl. 4 with shadows, so I won't be going down without a fight... it's gonna be a slugfest, that's for sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-42540492216415802002010-07-18T04:04:28.215-07:002010-07-18T04:04:28.215-07:00This is a good guide, thankyou! Would you suggest ...This is a good guide, thankyou! Would you suggest using things like Cloak of Beards or Pendant of Vengeance or are they just a waste of points?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-32654643861702887112010-07-18T02:56:14.730-07:002010-07-18T02:56:14.730-07:00good stuff so far, nice suggested combos. if i hav...good stuff so far, nice suggested combos. if i have learned anything from my encounters with those stubborn bearded fools its that they rightly fear white lions, give them some magical protection and watch their army fall. thankfully against several of his units step up is not that painful really. <br /><br />I would say sword masters but they get shot up easy, however when i used them they actually got to the other side of the board, make them tougher and their fine. (which requires good magic, maybe save it to the last spell and get him to waste dispel dice on spell that do direct damage, then cast the make tougher spell.<br /><br />but yeah you hit the nail on the head here. which army you doing next?James Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129464982962566837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8229245860561585942.post-63443753157463512022010-07-18T01:29:41.405-07:002010-07-18T01:29:41.405-07:00Alright, this is my first guide. Everything is su...Alright, this is my first guide. Everything is subject to change based on YOUR feedback. Let it rip: Tell me what to add, what to change, if things are incorrect (this is huge), or any other comments or concerns. These guides will be constantly updated as long as feedback keeps flowing. Thanks!HEROhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16578445512892020612noreply@blogger.com